Lester Golden
2 min readMar 1, 2024

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One of my UCLA grad school history classmates was Stephan Astourian, an Armenian from Nice who had a grant from the Hovannisian Foundation to study the Armenian genocide. His thesis advisor was Richard Hovannisian.

We understood each other in both French and English because he and his compatriots had their Turks and we had our Germans. I believe Stephan, as an honest scholarly student of genocide, would absolutely condemn your use of the term applied to Israel.

But you can ask him directly by submitting a paper to this conference with your evidence: https://networks.h-net.org/node/73374/announcements/12864603/armenian-genocide-new-interpretations-and-cross-disciplinary

His email at the American University of Armenia is here: https://people.aua.am/team_member/stephan-h-astourian/

Israeli Realpolitik makes for some uncomfortable choices, like Finland allying with the Germans in the continuation war of 1941-44. That's what tiny countries in bad neighborhoods sometimes do to survive.

The US doing the same for NATO member Turkiye for decades has far fewer excuses.

I lived in LA when the JCAG assassinated the Turkish consul and in Spain when ETA was killing Civil Guards and Spanish army troops. I approved of neither as worse than criminal because they were stupidly to yield the exact opposite result of what they intended. The same goes for Hamas' orgy of necrophilic rape, mutilation, torture and hostage taking and the PA's "pay to slay" shaheed pensions for terrorists' families and the deluded "from the river to the sea" war of return they've been fighting for 75 years.

Horrible badly treated and horribly badly treated mean entirely different things. It's hard to tell from your grammar which you mean.

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Lester Golden
Lester Golden

Written by Lester Golden

From Latvia & Porto I write to share learning from an academic&business life in 8 languages in 5 countries & seeing fascism die in Portugal&Spain in1974 & 1976.

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