Lester Golden
10 min readJun 9, 2024

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Ask the Christian emigres from the Muslim world and the mass raped and murdered Yazidis during Isis' rule.

Or try the Chaldaean and Assyrian Christians of Iraq, whose population has been decimated by Islamists.

Or Egypt's Copts who've seen their churches bombed and other murderous terrorist acts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Copts

From the link:

Abduction and forced conversion of Coptic women

Agape Girgis, 13-year-old Egyptian girl, abducted from Nahda, el-Ameriya, near Alexandria, on December 23, 2012, published by the Assyrian International News Agency[124]

Coptic women and girls are abducted, forced to convert to Islam and marry Muslim men.[125][126] In 2009 the Washington, D.C.-based group Christian Solidarity International published a study of the abductions and forced marriages and the anguish felt by the young women because returning to Christianity is against the law. Further allegations of organised abduction of Copts, trafficking and police collusion continue in 2017."

In April 2010, a bipartisan group of 17 members of the U.S. Congress expressed concern to the State Department's Trafficking in Persons Office about Coptic women who faced "physical and sexual violence, captivity ... exploitation in forced domestic servitude or commercial sexual exploitation, and financial benefit to the individuals who secure the forced conversion of the victim."[125]

According to the Egyptian NGO Association of Victims of Abduction and Forced Disappearance, between 2011 and March 2014, around 550 Coptic girls have been kidnapped, and forced to convert to Islam. According the same survey around 40% of the girls were raped prior to their conversion to Islam and married their captors.[128]

Post-revolution anti-women radical trend afflicting Copts

The synchronization of fatwas by Abu Islam and fatwas by other scholars which categorize certain groups of women (primarily Coptic women) as women who are 'asking for it' because they are not in the radical boat or oppose the regime, have been seen as unacceptable and degrading to Egyptian women in general, and to independent women (widows and divorcees) in particular. Coptic women were categorized as Crusaders, sharameet (prostitutes), or "lewd" and therefore willing to be raped.[129] Egyptian activist Salma Almasrya said that what the scholar[who?] has claimed matches the official declaration from state men which blamed the female activists for the rape crimes which they were subjected to.[129][130][131][132][133] Almasrya commented on the un-deterred harassment on the part of the Ministry of Media for two female interviewers in two different situations, one of whom was called "hot" on air while the other was told to "come and I will show you where!" when she asked about the freedom of expression, a phrase that was considered very offensive by the media."

Or ask Iran's persecuted Bahais and Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_emigration#:~:text=The%20phenomenon%20of%20large%2Dscale,Christian%20minorities%20for%20several%20generations.

From the link, which proves that Muslim supremacist dhimmitude isn't nearly as rosy as you portray it.

"Palestine

Palestinian Christians and Palestinian diaspora

Antiochian Orthodox church in Santiago: Chile houses the largest Palestinian Christian community in the world outside of the Levant.

The immigration of Palestinian Christians started in the 19th century as a result of the Ottoman discrimination against Christians.[38][39][40][41][42] 1948 and 1967 occupations and wars made many Christians flee or lose their homes.[43] There has been considerable emigration of Palestinians and Palestinian Christians are disproportionately represented within the Palestinian diaspora.[44] Most Gazan Christians have fled the Gaza Strip following the Hamas takeover in 2007, largely relocating to the West Bank."

Maybe Hamas implementing its charter drives this migration?

"Tucked into Article 31, toward the end of the delineation of its three dozen guiding principles, Hamas claims that all faiths can “coexist in peace and quiet with each other” under its unique “wing of Islam.” But lest anyone be lulled into believing the promise of this paradise on Earth, Hamas demands as the price of entry full allegiance and unquestioning compliance with its rule: “It is the duty of the followers of other religions to stop disputing the sovereignty of Islam in this region, because the day these followers should take over there will be nothing but carnage, displacement and terror.”

"There are also many Palestinian Christians who are descendants of Palestinian refugees from the post-1948 era who fled to Christian-majority countries and formed large diaspora Christian communities.[41][42] Worldwide, there are around one to four million Palestinian Christians in these territories as well as in the Palestinian diaspora, comprising around 6–30% of the world's total Palestinian population..[45] Palestinian Christians live primarily in Arab states surrounding historic Palestine and in the diaspora, particularly in Europe and the Americas.

Today, Chile houses the largest Palestinian Christian community in the world outside of the Levant. Over 450,000 Palestinian Christians reside in Chile, most of whom came from Beit Jala, Bethlehem, and Beit Sahur.[46] Also, El Salvador, Honduras, Brazil, Colombia, Argentina, Venezuela, and other Latin American countries have significant Palestinian Christian communities, some of whom immigrated almost a century ago during the time of Ottoman Palestine."

Your portrayal of Muslim supremacist dhimmitude is just like a 1960s Jim Crow southern sheriff who claims "our nigrahs and white follks get along just fine. It's just these outside agitators that's causin' all the trouble." The proof is in this list of crimes against Egypt's Copts:

"2000s

January 2000 – 20 Christians were killed in riots in the village of Al Kosheh,

Al Kosheh is a predominantly Christian Village in southern Egypt. After a Muslim customer and a Christian shoe-store owner fell into an argument, three days of rioting and street fighting erupted leaving 20 Christians (including four children) and one Muslim dead. The killings were not committed in the village of Al Kosheh itself, but in surrounding villages where Muslims are the majority. In the aftermath, 38 Muslim defendants were charged with murder and possession of guns in connection with the deaths of the 20 Copts. But all were acquitted of murder charges, and only four were convicted of any (lesser) charges, with the longest sentence given being 10 years. After protest by the Coptic Pope Shenouda, the government granted a new trial.[53]

February and April 2001 – International Christian Concern reports that in February 2001, armed Muslims burned a church and 35 Christian homes in Egypt. April 2001 a 14-year-old Egyptian Christian girl was kidnapped because her parents were believed to be harboring a convert from Islam to Christianity.[54]

19 April 2009 – A group of Muslims (Mahmoud Hussein Mohamed (26 years old), Mohamed Abdel Kader (32 years old), Ramadan Fawzy Mohamed (24 years old), Ahmed Mohamed Saeed (16 years old), and Abu Bakr Mohamed Saeed) open fire at Christians on Easter's Eve killing two (Hedra Adib (22 years old), and Amir Estafanos (26 years old)) and injuring another (Mina Samir (25 years old)). This event was in Hegaza village, Koos city. On February 22, 2010, they were sentenced to 25 years of jail.[55][56]

2010–2011

7 January 2010—six Christians killed in attack on Christmas celebration in Nag Hammadi known as the Nag Hammadi massacre.

Machine gun attack by three MBs from an Amazigh (Berbers) tribe called Al-Hawara on Coptic Christians celebrating Christmas. Seven are killed (including a Muslim officer who was on service).[57]

A 2010 New Year's Eve attack by Islamic fundamentalists on the Coptic Orthodox Church in the city of Alexandria left 21 dead and many more injured.[58][59][60] One week later, thousands of Muslims stood as human shields outside churches as Coptic Christians attended Christmas Masses on 6 and 7 January 2011.[61]

1 January 2011 (On New Year's Eve) – 21 Christians killed in bombing in Alexandria.

A car bomb exploded in front of an Alexandria Coptic Orthodox Church killing at least 21 and injuring at least 79. The incident happened a few minutes after midnight as Christians were leaving a New Year's Eve Church service.[62][63][64]

11 January 2011 – A mentally deranged member of the police force opened fire randomly in a train in Samalout station in Minya province resulting in the death of a 71-year-old Coptic Christian man and injuring of 5 others Copts and Muslims.[65]

30 January 2011, just days after the demonstrations to reform the Egyptian government, Muslims in southern Egypt broke into two homes belonging to Coptic Christians. The Muslim assailants murdered 11 people and wounded four others.[66]

5 March 2011 – A church was set on fire in Sole, Egypt by a group of Muslim men angry that a Muslim woman was romantically involved with a Christian man. Large groups of Copts then proceeded to hold major protests stopping traffic for hours in vital areas of Cairo.[67][68]

7 May 2011 – the burning of 3 Coptic Orthodox churches, and the destruction of many Christian-owned houses and businesses. In addition, 15 people were killed in the attacks, and about 232 injured.[69][70][71][72][73][74]

18 May 2011 – The Coptic Church obtained a permission in January to turn a garment factory bought by the church in 2006, into a church in the neighbourhood of Ain Shams of Cairo. However, angry Muslim mobs attacked the church and scores of Copts and Muslims were arrested for the disturbance. On Sunday May 29, an Egyptian Military Court sentenced two Coptic Christians to five years in jail each for violence and for trying to turn a factory into an unlicensed church.[75][76]

[77]

2012–2013

18 September 2012 – A Coptic Christian schoolteacher was sentenced to jail for six years because he posted cartoons on Facebook which were allegedly defamatory to Islam and Mohammed, and also insulted Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi. Al-Jamaa Al-Islamiya members and Salafist groups attempted to attack Kamel as he was led out of court, and rocks were thrown at the police car used to take him away from the court. However, the schoolteacher denied posting the cartoons and said that his account was hacked.[78]

According to The Guardian, four Christians and one Muslim were killed in sectarian clashes that broke out north of Cairo after children allegedly drew a swastika on Islamic property. On Sunday Christians gathered in Cairo to remember the dead in a service that ended by further escalating sectarian tensions resulting in two Christians and one Muslim being killed. Local news reports that the sixth Coptic victim who has died was set on fire during the clashes died in hospital a few days later, while according to other media sources the second Muslim victim died from a fractured skull.[79]

Christians complained revolution, and the first time the Cathedral had been attacked.[79]

July 2013 – Muslim Brotherhood supporters burn dozens of churches.

Following the July 3 coup d'état against President Mohamed Morsi – a member of the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood – Muslim Brotherhood supporters burn dozens of churches throughout Egypt and killed at least 45 Coptic Christians.[39]

2014–2015

In March 2014, Mary Sameh George, a 25-year-old Coptic Christian woman, was killed by a group of Muslims who are affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood.[80][81] An eyewitness told the Egyptian TV show 90 Minutes that "once they saw that she was a Christian because of a cross hanging on her rear view mirror, they jumped on top of the car. They pulled her out of the car and started pounding on her and pulling her hair. They beat and stripped her, stabbed her in the back and slit her throat."[82]

In December 2014, A Coptic doctor named Magdy Sobhi and his wife were killed by Ansar al-Sharia in Libya. They kidnapped his eldest daughter Catherine, who was later found dead in a desert.[83][84] The motivation for the killing was found to be religious and not criminal because local police found money in the doctor's apartment untouched.[85][86]

On 15 February 2015, militants in Libya claiming loyalty to ISIL released a video depicting the beheading of 21 Coptic Christians. Subsequently, the victims were commemorated as martyr saints on the 8th Amshir of the Coptic calendar, which is February 15 of the Gregorian calendar.[87]

2016–2017

February 2016 – three Christian teenagers in Minya are sentenced to five years in prison for insulting Islam. They had appeared in a video, allegedly mocking Muslim prayers, but claimed they had been mocking IS following a number of beheadings by that group.[88][89]

26 May – a 70-year-old Christian woman in Minya is beaten and dragged through the streets naked by a mob who falsely suspected her son of having a sexual relationship with a Muslim woman.[90][40]

On 11 December 2016, the Botroseya Church bombing killed 29 people and injured 47 others.[91][92]

February 2017 – terrorist groups fighting in the Sinai insurgency call for attacks on Christians.[93][94] At least seven Christians are killed in separate attacks in city of El Arish in Sinai. Many Coptic families respond by fleeing from the Sinai Peninsula to Ismailia Governorate.[95]

9 April 2017 – Bombings of two Coptic churches kill over 45 people and injures over 130. St George's Coptic Orthodox Church in the Tanta region and St Mark's Church in Alexandria were bombed during Palm Sunday processions.[96]

7 May 2017 – A Christian man was shot dead by Islamic State militants in El Arish.[97]

26 May – 2017 Minya attack, In May 2017, gunmen executed at least 28 Christian pilgrims traveling in a bus to the monastery of St. Samuel the Confessor in Minya Governorate.[98]

12 October – A Coptic priest was killed in a knife attack in Cairo; his murderer subsequently declared his antipathy toward Christians.[99][100][101][102]

29 December – A gunman who was later identified as an Islamic extremist shot multiple people at Saint Menas church in Helwan killing 11 people including a police officer.[103]

2018

1 January – Two Coptic Christian brothers were killed by masked gunmen for being inside an alcohol store in Al Omraneyah, Giza.[104][105][106][107] According to eyewitnesses, the masked man shouted during the shooting "these are Christians" [108]

15 January – A Coptic man was killed in El Arish. Two armed Muslim men stopped Bassem and asked him about his religion. After answering that he was Christian, they shot him in the head.[109][110]

2 November – At least seven killed and seven wounded when Bedouins loyal to ISIL opened fire on a bus-load of Coptic pilgrims travelling between Cairo and Minya on its way to a monastery.[111][112]

12 December – A Coptic man and his son were killed in Minya Governorate[113] by a police officer responsible for guarding the church after fabricating a quarrel with them.[114][115][116]

2020–present

5 October 2020 – A Muslim mob in the village of Dabbous near Samalut attacked Coptic people, homes and property after two Muslim adults bullied and beat up a 10-year-old Coptic child, causing retaliation from Coptic adults. The police later arrested six Muslims and six Christians.[117][118][119]

18 April 2021 – A Coptic man in Bir al-Abd was held captive for five months by ISIS in the Sinai Peninsula, then killed on camera.[120] In the video, he stated that he helped build the Church of Virgin Mary in Bir El-Abd, and that it is helping the army and intelligence services fight ISIS.[121]

27 May 2021 – A Coptic monk is executed for murder of the abbot of his monastery over authority and control disputes, the accused monk within the monastery was forced to confess. UN experts sent a letter to the Egyptian authorities expressing concerns about the allegations of torture of him and his co-defendant.[122]

19 July 2021 – St. George Coptic Orthodox Church in Surrey, British Columbia, Canada was completely incinerated. This followed a string of church arsons in Canada, following, now refuted claims, that mass graves of indigenous students had been discovered in Catholic residential schools. The woman responsible was sentenced to 4 years in prison.[123]"

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Lester Golden

From Latvia & Porto I write to share learning from an academic&business life in 8 languages in 5 countries & seeing fascism die in Portugal&Spain in1974 & 1976.